DBZGT Versus Thread

[Gokulio]

To make this whole thread a heck of a lot more simple. Don't add canon vs. non-canon stuff, it's as easy as that.

Who do you think you are barging in here telling us what to do?! 

Also, stop saying canon vs non-canon. I mean is canon actually a show, or is that a kind of metaphor? 

[True Pefection]

Who do you think you are barging in here telling us what to do?!

I'm not doing anything of the sort.

I'm just trying to make this thread avoid crazy arguments that plague so many other Dragon Ball boards.
 

Also, stop saying canon vs non-canon. I mean is canon actually a show, or is that a kind of metaphor?

Canon, in the context of a fictional universe, comprises those novels, stories, films, etc., that are considered to be genuine or officially sanctioned, and those events, characters, settings, etc., that are considered to have existence within the fictional universe. In order for a setting to appear cohesive, especially in fictions that contain multiple parts, both creators and audiences sometimes find it useful to define what has and has not "actually happened" in that universe.

Canon is what Toriyama wrote. The manga.

[Kamiccolo33]

Ok, there is a little bit of tension here. Fair enough that it is not cannon, or maybe it is, but this is for people to discuss who is stronger than who. It doesn't matter if it is cannon or not, it is a part of the Dragonball Z universe. Somebody could post whether Hercule is stronger than Arnold Swarchenegger was in his prime years.

So guys, just remember, this is supposed to be fun!

[True Pefection]

Whatever floats your boat.
 

[Kamiccolo33]

Whatever floats your boat.
 

It indeed floats my boat, True Perfection. And it floats quite well.

So, would Hercule (DBZ) be as strong or stronger than Goku (start of DB) do you think?

[Conners]

It indeed floats my boat, True Perfection. And it floats quite well.

So, would Hercule (DBZ) be as strong or stronger than Goku (start of DB) do you think?

Hardly.... I think.... Goku starting out had a weird set-up. 10 BP but he could shatter stone with his bare hands, deflect bullets with his skull, and lift cars. The only thing I could think of is that it would be like my stat system, where Kid Goku's stats are high and therefore make his BP seem to weak an estimate.

Oh yes... back on topic. I think Kid Goku would win, though possibly with difficulty. If you count filler episodes, you'll notice Hercule can pull three buses and rip three dictionaries in half (as well as his famous tile chopping)... So, it's a rather hard to say. Manga Mr. Satan vs. Kid Goku starting out: Likely Goku, possibly Hercule (definitely Goku when oyu consider his main character powers). Any Hercule vs. Kid Goku mid-Dragon Ball: Kid Goku definitely wins.

[Kamiccolo33]

It indeed floats my boat, True Perfection. And it floats quite well.

So, would Hercule (DBZ) be as strong or stronger than Goku (start of DB) do you think?

Hardly.... I think.... Goku starting out had a weird set-up. 10 BP but he could shatter stone with his bare hands, deflect bullets with his skull, and lift cars. The only thing I could think of is that it would be like my stat system, where Kid Goku's stats are high and therefore make his BP seem to weak an estimate.

Oh yes... back on topic. I think Kid Goku would win, though possibly with difficulty. If you count filler episodes, you'll notice Hercule can pull three buses and rip three dictionaries in half (as well as his famous tile chopping)... So, it's a rather hard to say. Manga Mr. Satan vs. Kid Goku starting out: Likely Goku, possibly Hercule (definitely Goku when oyu consider his main character powers). Any Hercule vs. Kid Goku mid-Dragon Ball: Kid Goku definitely wins.

Lol, I like Hercule's power, ripping 3 phone books. But, it was hard to tell whether he was strong or not because he always acted like a goof.

[True Pefection]

It indeed floats my boat, True Perfection. And it floats quite well.

I'm not trying to sound upmyself or cocky, sorry if it sounded like it... I'll cool down for now on. I just want to get along with everyone.
 

So, would Hercule (DBZ) be as strong or stronger than Goku (start of DB) do you think?

I'd say Kid Goku. Hercule was injured from gun shot wounds (when that bandit shot him in the Buu saga) while it did nothing really to Goku.

[Kamiccolo33]

@ True Perfection Ok, no worries.

I guess you have a point. Then, who WOULD Hercule be stronger than in DB? Would he be able to defeat Kid Krillin before he started to train with Master Roshi? I'm guessing he would...

[True Pefection]

Then, who WOULD Hercule be stronger than in DB? Would he be able to defeat Kid Krillin before he started to train with Master Roshi? I'm guessing he would...

He would probably be stronger than Kid (isn't he a teenager?) Krillin. Also he's very strong for a normal non-ki using human remember.

[Gokulio]

I'm not trying to sound upmyself or cocky, sorry if it sounded like it... I'll cool down for now on. I just want to get along with everyone.
 

Yea, that's okay. I've just had an argument with Mattroid, but it is over now and we are friends. I just said that to show that things can end up well if everyone can forgive.

So, the moral of this story is 'forgive and forget'. 

[Buurcule]

Then, who WOULD Hercule be stronger than in DB? Would he be able to defeat Kid Krillin before he started to train with Master Roshi? I'm guessing he would...

He would probably be stronger than Kid (isn't he a teenager?) Krillin. Also he's very strong for a normal non-ki using human remember.

I reckon he'd be able to beat most of the tournament members.

[SsjGogetanlo]

Basically just provide an argument on which character would win in a fight.
Let's start off with the big one:

Goku VS. Vegeta

Goku would win,hes a much better/smarter fighter than vegeta(this was denoted through out the series) ,and hes more zealous about fighting than vegeta is(vegeta is only enthusiastic about being better than goku which makes him less of a good fighter).And plus hes more calm than vegeta.

I believe goku could off won the fight against majin vegeta in his ssj2 from if he wanted to.

Cooler vs frieza
Cooler would win simply because of what he stated,which is having one more form than frieza and plus hes smarter.

Yamcha vs krillin
Krilln maybe...not sure.

Nova vs Eis
Nova of coarse,fire beats ice.And plus Goku defeated him easily.

Hey Kamiccolo,I have a pic of cooler in his first form, I think,maybe its fake though.

[Kamiccolo33]

I agree with you that Goku COULD have beaten Majin Vegeta. But, I think he was holding back on Vegeta a little because he's a good guy. 

[DBZ Mick]

Goku would have very easily beaten Vegeta when he was possessed by Babadi.

(vegeta is only enthusiastic about being better than goku which makes him less of a good fighter)

Vegeta only fought for his pride or to kill people.

Yamcha vs krillin
Krilln maybe...not sure.

I'd say Krillin.